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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:14 pm Post subject: Questions/Remarks about the Tags : inconsistencies |
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used the export_tagset.php document http://www.unlweb.net/unlarium/dictionary/export_tagset.php ; the Tagset wikipage http://www.unlweb.net/wiki/index.php/Tagset and the wikipages of some tags.
There are some inconsistencies between those documents, I tried to propose some solution but I may have made some mistakes...
a- There is a problem on the Tagset wikipage with AGR>TNS(Assigns tense), and AGR>TNS(receives tense), I replaced by ATNS and RTNS respectively. The export_tagset.php document has both ATNS and RTNS.
b- Some differences on SYN>XS between the export_tagset.php document and the Tagset wikipage. I used the Tagset wikipage for labels and comments of those tags. There is also a misspell on the word "Speficier"
c- is SYN>XP>PP a prepositional phrase according to the tagset wikipage, or a adpositional phrase according to the export_tagset.php document ? I used :
- label : maximal projection of a prepositional phrase
- comment : maximal projection. e.g., (Adpositional-bar-bar phrase (maximal projection))
d. LST>WRD>ABR(abbreviation) does not exist in the export_tagset.php document, but the ABB tag seems similar. I used ABB.
ABB : Abbreviation of a word form. e.g., Dr.
e. CAS>ASL(absolutive) does not exist in the export_tagset.php document, but the ABS tag seems similar. I used ABS.
ABS : Case of nouns in ergative-absolutive languages that would generally be the subjects of intransitive verbs or the objects of transitive verbs in the translational equivalents of nominative-accusative languages such as English
f. MOO>POT(Potential) does not exist in the export_tagset.php document, but the ALE tag seems similar. I used ALE.
ALE : Modality that connotes the speaker's estimation of the logical necessity or possibility of the proposition expressed by his utterance
g. MOR>AFF does not exist in the export_tagset.php document. I added it to my list.
h. PRS exists twice in the Tagset wikipage : as TNS>ATE>PRS and SEM>PRS. According to the extract_tagset.php document, I renamed SEM>PRS as SEM>HUM :
HUM : Nouns denoting people
i- There is a conflict for PTP participle, does it really has two superclasses : POS>J and POS>VBL ? I assumed the answer is yes.
j- I used for TRA>NTRA : label : no transitivity ; comment : A linking verb (such as copula. e.g., with no transitivity)
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:48 am Post subject: RES: Questions/Remarks about the Tags : inconsistencies |
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Notice, please, that most of the uppermost branches in the Tagset are actually links to other articles in the UNLWiki, where the categories are further explained. Some of the problems below only apply to the Tagset page, and not to the inner pages. In any case, thank you very much for your rigorous reading. I have corrected all the problems, as follows:
a- There is a problem on the Tagset wikipage with AGR>TNS(Assigns tense), and AGR>TNS(receives tense), I replaced by ATNS and RTNS respectively. The export_tagset.php document has both ATNS and RTNS.
OK. The “A” and the “R” have been added. They were missing indeed.
b- Some differences on SYN>XS between the export_tagset.php document and the Tagset wikipage. I used the Tagset wikipage for labels and comments of those tags. There is also a misspell on the word "Speficier"
OK. The typo has been corrected, and the difference between labels were not relevant. We have shortened the labels in the export_tagset.php because they are also used as hints in drop-down boxes.
c- is SYN>XP>PP a prepositional phrase according to the tagset wikipage, or a adpositional phrase according to the export_tagset.php document ? I used :
- label : maximal projection of a prepositional phrase
- comment : maximal projection. e.g., (Adpositional-bar-bar phrase (maximal projection))
The terms “prepositional” and “adpositional” have been used interchangeably in the grammar tradition. They mean the same. But we have now normalized this and adopted “prepositional” in all cases.
d. LST>WRD>ABR(abbreviation) does not exist in the export_tagset.php document, but the ABB tag seems similar. I used ABB.
ABB : Abbreviation of a word form. e.g., Dr.
The correct is “ABB”.
e. CAS>ASL(absolutive) does not exist in the export_tagset.php document, but the ABS tag seems similar. I used ABS.
ABS : Case of nouns in ergative-absolutive languages that would generally be the subjects of intransitive verbs or the objects of transitive verbs in the translational equivalents of nominative-accusative languages such as English
The correct is “ABS”.
f. MOO>POT(Potential) does not exist in the export_tagset.php document, but the ALE tag seems similar. I used ALE.
ALE : Modality that connotes the speaker's estimation of the logical necessity or possibility of the proposition expressed by his utterance
I have included POT in the export_tagset.php. ALE (alethic) is a value of modality, and not of mood. It conveys a different notion.
g. MOR>AFF does not exist in the export_tagset.php document. I added it to my list.
Ok. I have included it also to the export_tagset.php.
h. PRS exists twice in the Tagset wikipage : as TNS>ATE>PRS and SEM>PRS. According to the extract_tagset.php document, I renamed SEM>PRS as SEM>HUM :
HUM : Nouns denoting people
Ok. I have corrected it in the tagset.
i- There is a conflict for PTP participle, does it really has two superclasses : POS>J and POS>VBL ? I assumed the answer is yes.
Yes: PTP has two superclasses.
j- I used for TRA>NTRA : label : no transitivity ; comment : A linking verb (such as copula. e.g., with no transitivity)
OK.
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